Cteve
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Post by Cteve on Jun 13, 2014 15:08:38 GMT -5
Cotton had things his way for Jr/Sr seasons. Realistic or not Fortune probably wants the same. It isn't tough to figure out. The ball won't be in his hands, he has to be set up. If he thinks Cooley won't build an offense around him, then he probably feels it's futile to stay. That, and Cooley isn't going to stop recruiting.
If I were advising Fortune I'd say choose a low major (Madison,Mason,W&M) and hope the point guard gives the ball up because you don't have the skills to make your own shots at high-maj. level.
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Post by friara on Jun 13, 2014 15:29:05 GMT -5
By far the most bizarre transfer that I can remember for PC. Not one of those schools are local. Not one of those schools would be described as "big time". And not one of those schools, with the possible exception of Valpo, offer immediate playing time that was all but assured at PC.
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Post by friar71 on Jun 13, 2014 15:42:52 GMT -5
By far the most bizarre transfer that I can remember for PC. Not one of those schools are local. Not one of those schools would be described as "big time". And not one of those schools, with the possible exception of Valpo, offer immediate playing time that was all but assured at PC. It seems bizarre from a distance but obviously not for the kid. I think the comment But Angela Fortune said her son felt the need for a fresh start. might mean Josh didn't like PC. Now that could be EC, the North, the College, the remaining teammates, Western Civ, a broken heart etc. ..............Obviously it wasn't playing time but that may not have been the reason for his discontent. Hopefully he finds what he is looking for or avoids what chased him away.
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Post by Cteve on Jun 13, 2014 15:52:10 GMT -5
It wasn't real complicated a month ago and it's not now. He doesn't handle the ball and wants shots. If he's not convinced that Cooley is going to run sets for him then he feels it's futile to stay.
That, and he knows Cooley isn't going to stop recruiting guards.
If I was advising him I tell him to pick a low major (Mason,Madison,W&M) that has a point guard that gives up the ball. If he goes to high major that just wants him to fill out their roster, he'll likely find that he'll have the same problem he's projecting he'll have in his Jr/Sr years here.
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Post by scootj on Jun 13, 2014 16:32:16 GMT -5
People think these kids are pros and they owe you something. If a kid wants to transfer its his decision. Some are wishing josh well others calling the kids decision foolish or dumb. Kids transfer all the time it's the nature of the business. I can see if the player was a punk or bad apple to bash him on his way out the door but if the player represents the program well and played hard for the team I do not see a reason to bash someone. The kid is gone time for people to move on from this.
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Post by friara on Jun 13, 2014 16:39:47 GMT -5
I have said all along the Fortune is a great kid making a very questionable decision. That is very fair. I wish him no luck nor do I wish him a lack of luck.
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Post by bostonfriar on Jun 13, 2014 17:53:58 GMT -5
It wasn't real complicated a month ago and it's not now. He doesn't handle the ball and wants shots. If he's not convinced that Cooley is going to run sets for him then he feels it's futile to stay. That, and he knows Cooley isn't going to stop recruiting guards. If I was advising him I tell him to pick a low major (Mason,Madison,W&M) that has a point guard that gives up the ball. If he goes to high major that just wants him to fill out their roster, he'll likely find that he'll have the same problem he's projecting he'll have in his Jr/Sr years here. Plans for this summer were for Josh to work with God to seriously improve his handle. Not sure if he liked the plan or not.
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Post by oaklawnbob on Jun 13, 2014 17:54:57 GMT -5
Scootj-there you go again. No one believes these kids are pros and owe us something. Where did that come from? Josh had the 2g spot all to himself this upcoming season. He may not have had the minutes played last season, but he would have been an integral part of the team. He doen't have the handle to be a PG. He was still growing into the game and learning his limitations. Nice kid who I guess had his feeling hurt. It's his loss and our loss. Sitting out a year can't be fun. I don't think it was a smart move by him. I wish him the best.
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Post by Cteve on Jun 13, 2014 18:59:22 GMT -5
" Kids transfer all the time " -------------------------------------- There's risk involved. If you don't think so, I hope you aren't advising Josh. Sitting out a season you lose a feel for the game. Keep in mind we have just seen a former starter here --with more physical talent than Fortune-- fail after a transfer to Gonzaga.
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Post by Free Weyinmi on Jun 14, 2014 7:30:19 GMT -5
After reading that list of schools and his rationale for leaving, the possibility that jumps out at me is that this is more about academics than anything else: All those schools offer engineering and related graduate programs, whereas Providence just offers one of those 3-2 engineering programs that requires time at other institutions. He was a declared management major at Providence. Sitting out a year allows him to focus on what he needs to catch up on, engineering-wise, then still play for two years while graduating and going on to graduate school.
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Post by mikemc on Jun 14, 2014 13:23:59 GMT -5
After reading that list of schools and his rationale for leaving, the possibility that jumps out at me is that this is more about academics than anything else: All those schools offer engineering and related graduate programs, whereas Providence just offers one of those 3-2 engineering programs that requires time at other institutions. He was a declared management major at Providence. Sitting out a year allows him to focus on what he needs to catch up on, engineering-wise, then still play for two years while graduating and going on to graduate school. Why wouldn't he just come out and say that he is moving on to become an engineer? ?? Has to be more to it than that.. ....gotta love friartown...
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Post by Free Weyinmi on Jun 14, 2014 13:34:59 GMT -5
Time will tell. Everything about that family tells me it's all about something practical and down-to-earth.
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Post by craigl79 on Jun 14, 2014 13:52:31 GMT -5
Dunn 30 mpg Fortune 25-30 mpg Mason 20-25 mpg And from the read I have, Fortune was thinking about transferring long before Mason came into the picture.. .kid thought he was big time: that simple.Fortune told Cooley he wants to handle the ball more and cannot sit around fighting for minutes. He thinks he can be a combo guard at the next level and is tired of "just coming off of screens" I really think this has a lot to do with it. What he was told he is going to be on the next level, regardless of whether it is realistic or not. How many of these kids come into school thinking they need to play a different position than what they are? I am sure it happens all the time in college was well as is a big reason for transfers.
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Post by wtm97 on Jun 25, 2014 5:36:42 GMT -5
www.theneworleansadvocate.com/sports/9548382-171/patrick-promoted-to-lsu-assistantCBS Sports reported that former Providence guard Josh Fortune visited LSU on Tuesday, one month after Providence said he planned to leave the Friars program after two seasons. A native of Hampton, Virginia, Fortune was a two-year starter at Providence. He has already visited Colorado and reportedly is considering Minnesota and Valparaiso as well. Fortune will have to sit out the 2014-15 season as a transfer and will have two seasons of eligibility left. The 6-foot-5, 200-pounder played 33 minutes per game last season when he averaged 8.4 points, 3.0 rebounds and 2.1 assists per game. He improved from the floor, shooting 41.4 percent (35.0 percent from 3-point range) after making just 32.7 percent of his field-goal attempts as a freshman. Fortune had a season-high 24 points in a win over St. John’s in the Big East tournament, knocking down four 3-point shots. In addition to his shooting, Fortune’s playing time increased as a sophomore after playing 23.1 minutes per game as a freshman. He averaged 5.5 points and 2.4 rebounds in his first season with the Friars.
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Post by flyerlax06 on Jul 2, 2014 16:42:48 GMT -5
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