UCONN to BEAST?

[wtm97]

My guess is Tranghese is telling the Presidents that the BET @ MSG is in the balance because I can't think of any other reason to let them in?

As walk adds, most likely Tranghese's hands are all over this - he has been consulting actively with UCONN and others so this could very well be a path that is seen as serving everyone...

IF the FOX/MSG powers want this then it will probably happen. Our personal feelings of "no way" will matter not a whit in face of $$$.

Lock up financial protections for sure but more importantly market the heck out of this and keep the round robin schedule, possible with an 11th team.

[drairf]

My question around the future of MSG would be is there another conference, with a higher profile than the BE, that would commit to an every year contract to play the tournament in NYC? ACC would make the most sense based on Geography and NY based alumni, but would the southern schools sign up for this? Big 10 certainly has alumni in NYC but only 1 school within striking distance and again, would the Indianas of the league want NYC every year?

Obvioulsy, the MSG could always work out a rotating schedule with ACC, Big 10 and BE if the first two leagues wouldn’t commit to every year.

Agree that UConn would make it more likely that the BET remains in NYC every year.

[bostonfriar]

Feb 15, 2017 13:01:49 GMT -5 Cteve said:

remember that the Catholic 7

So what were they supposed to do sit back and get involved with SMU and Memphis? Of course they left. I don't want ucon and if it does happen the C-7 needs something back. Nobody wants them and they --really-- don't want the BE.
My guess is Tranghese is telling the Presidents that the BET @ MSG is in the balance because I can't think of any other reason to let them in?

[bostonfriar]

MSG is an issue especially with B10 snooping around.

Feb 15, 2017 13:01:49 GMT -5 Cteve said:

remember that the Catholic 7

So what were they supposed to do sit back and get involved with SMU and Memphis? Of course they left. I don't want ucon and if it does happen the C-7 needs something back. Nobody wants them and they --really-- don't want the BE.
My guess is Tranghese is telling the Presidents that the BET @ MSG is in the balance because I can't think of any other reason to let them in?

[bigsnoop]

Big East ratings were reported to be up 30% this season.

[thewalk]

30% x 0 = ?

[pcdad]

MSG lease has a finite date.... we wrote of it about the last time ACC was looking to have it's tournament there.
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N.Y. / Region

Madison Square Garden Is Told to Move


By CHARLES V. BAGLIJULY 24, 2013

Madison Square Garden, home to the Knicks, the Rangers, the Ice Capades, the circus and the “Fight of the Century” between Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier in 1971, received an eviction notice of sorts on Wednesday.

The New York City Council notified the arena that it has 10 years to vacate its 45-year-old premises and find a new home, the Garden’s fifth since it opened in 1879.

By a vote of 47 to 1, the Council voted to extend the Garden’s special operating permit for merely a decade — not in perpetuity, as the owners of the Garden had requested, or 15 years, as the Bloomberg administration had intended.

Ten years should be enough time, officials said, for the Garden to find a new location and for the city to devise plans for an expanded Pennsylvania Station, which currently sits below the Garden, and the redevelopment of the surrounding neighborhood.

“This is the first step in finding a new home for Madison Square Garden and building a new Penn Station that is as great as New York and suitable for the 21st century,” said Christine C. Quinn, the City Council speaker. “This is an opportunity to reimagine and redevelop Penn Station as a world-class transportation destination.”


Ms. Quinn renewed her call for the creation of a commission to devise the plans.

Civic leaders and some developers have long sought to rebuild Penn Station, a cramped and crowded maze for the more than 500,000 people a day who traverse it. But doing so would be an enormously complicated, multibillion-dollar undertaking that has foiled officials in the past. And anything can happen in the next 10 years, including several elections for mayor and governor.

James L. Dolan, who controls the Garden, the Knicks and the Rangers, offered a low-key response to the news that barely acknowledged the 10-year deadline. Mr. Dolan expects to complete this fall a $968 million overhaul of the Garden, which has been closing in its off-seasons to accommodate the work.

“Madison Square Garden has operated at its current site for generations, and has been proud to bring New Yorkers some of the greatest and most iconic moments in sports and entertainment,” Mr. Dolan’s company said in a statement issued Wednesday afternoon. “We now look forward to the reopening of the arena in the fall of 2013.”

Mr. Dolan announced the latest renovation of the Garden in 2008, just after the last $14 billion effort to move the Garden and transform the train station collapsed amid a severe recession, insufficient financing, an absence of political leadership and overreaching by the developers selected for the job.

Late last year, the Regional Plan Association and the Municipal Art Society used the Garden’s application for an extension of its permit to resurrect the idea. The Bloomberg administration recommended a 15-year extension. But that city proposal also allowed the city’s Planning Department to further extend the permit if officials failed to come up with plans for a new station, and the Garden and the transit operators agreed on a plan for improved access to the station.

“Our goal from the outset was to improve Penn Station. In fact, our proposal would have required government leaders to come together and develop a plan to do just that,” said Julie Wood, a spokeswoman for Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.

Critics derided the Bloomberg administration for including what they described as a loophole. Ms. Quinn, who is a Democratic candidate for mayor, called instead for a firm 10-year extension. Bill de Blasio and John C. Liu, two other candidates, also called on the Garden to move. Joseph J. Lhota, a Republican candidate and a former executive at the Garden, and William C. Thompson Jr., a Democrat, backed the Garden.

[friar82]

Don't believe it, dad.

Things will work their way through, and MSG will remain where it stands

[bigsnoop]

Feb 15, 2017 15:34:16 GMT -5 thewalk said:

30% x 0 = ?

Love your positivity

[thewalk]

I believe the arrangement with the BE ends in 2026.

[bigsnoop]

It does end in 2026. Both the ACC and Big 10 have said that they would like NYC as part of their rotation, but not a permanent thing.

[thewalk]

I talked to someone who was pretty high up at MSG and said its ours as long as we want it....he's no longer there and minds can change once the Acc and b10 come rolling in but that's what I was told. Uconn helps in this area immensely.

[bigsnoop]

Also would help to have St. John's trend upward.

[bigsnoop]

Commissioner Ackerman was on the radio tonight, and said no one from Big East has spoken to UConn or anyone else about expansion. She also mentioned that everyone in the league likes the ten team, round robin format.

[dmac80]

Feb 15, 2017 13:58:40 GMT -5 drairf said:

Look, I'd prefer UConn suffer in the AAC.

However, more important to me and the PC basketball program, is that we get another TV contract that pays us enough to at least compete nationally in basketball. If the FS1 ratings for BE basketball are in the toilet, we could be looking at very short money when this contract is up. It's hard to argue that UConn wouldn't help in the ratings department.

Again, I'd like to see UConn go the way of BC basketball (that is, beating us at their place every other year despite sucking) but my biggest concern is long term financial success of the league.

Agree and I worry about the next fox contract as they'll be more established and the small Be schools and numbers means less money next time, UCONN would also help the BET......the boneyard must be in meltdown mode, they think they're better than begging for re entry to big east.