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Post by friarfaithful on Jan 8, 2014 12:55:44 GMT -5
The one problem I have is that if the offense were worthy of a year long basketball suspension but no suspension from academics, wouldn't a semester full suspension have sufficed? If they were both suspended for the rest of the first semester and allowed to return after exams were over, would not the penalty be of the same gravity? Would not the school, the players, the girl, the coach, and the heads of administration be better off? Again, I have only heard rumors about what the "infraction" was so I can't comment on the punsihment. Maybe the length was justified, maybe it wasn't justified. I have a feeling, if anything, the punishment was way too lenient. It's obvious to me that the people complaining about losing Austin are more concerned with winning then they are concerned with maintaining the catholicity of Providence College. Again, I hope Providence College never becomes what they want it to be just to win basketball games.
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Post by friarfaithful on Jan 8, 2014 13:01:10 GMT -5
For those who have forgotten: "Providence College brings the eight-hundred-year-old Dominican ideal of veritas to the issues and challenges of today. It seeks to share the fruits of contemplation in an increasingly global and diverse society, and to praise and bless all that is good and vital in human endeavors. Providence College supports the Dominican mission of preaching the gospel of My God to a new generation of students and helping them discover God’s providence in their lives." www.providence.edu/about/mission/Pages/Default.aspxVeritas = truth.
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Post by thewalk on Jan 8, 2014 13:09:41 GMT -5
disagree A...council and cotton both played 38 mins two years ago...he could have easily gotten 5-7...and probably closer to 10...now he may have left once dunn/ledo signed, but i'm guessing he's a lot better than cooley thought and cooley would have found a way to keep him...last year he'd have gotten 15+ and 20+ at the beginning of the year...and this year he'd probably be playing 35
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Post by friarbroadcaster on Jan 8, 2014 13:11:50 GMT -5
Friarbroadcaster - Ledo/Sidiki/Kiwi were all known risks prior to setting foot on campus..."we" were ok with cooley taking those risks b/c our program sucks and it was a quick(er) way back.... how he punted Anderson and took Kiwi gets more mind boggling by the minute...i know friar a - anderson wouldn't have helped (but as a jr he's averaging 16 and 5...and shooting over 50%)...SO with the exception of Dunn and this latest debacle, the other 3 weren't too hard to predict.... Agreed, I look at Anderson's stats and wonder why we could not have had him here. At the time, though, it was "ok this was Keno's guy so Ed must want someone better." Hard to argue one month into Cooley's tenure. Plus, he also released another player (name escapes me) and we get Henton. I also would like to know what Ian Baker could have brough to the table... And I am not saying its hard to predict, but from fans I have talked to there is just a real tough pill to always have these players and not seeing them on the floor. I know most fans appreciate Cooley taking these risks. That is all I am saying. No one said it was hard to predict.
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Post by jaf97 on Jan 8, 2014 13:29:12 GMT -5
Markus Crider is averaging 2.1 ppg as a soph at Georgia St.
Ian Baker is averaging 5.7 ppg over 3 games at New Mexico St.
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Post by friara on Jan 8, 2014 13:44:03 GMT -5
Anderson would have been playing 40 a game at points last year....still doubt he would have stuck around after freshman year.
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Post by thumper on Jan 8, 2014 23:09:53 GMT -5
so seven 20 something students decided our fate in all of this? U have got to be kidding me I've been going to The Civic Center before any of them were friggin born Who ever said the ruling body was made of 7 students? PIZZA, SODA, GRINDERS!!!
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Post by diehardfriar on Jan 9, 2014 1:01:36 GMT -5
so seven 20 something students decided our fate in all of this? U have got to be kidding me I've been going to The Civic Center before any of them were friggin born Who ever said the ruling body was made of 7 students? PIZZA, SODA, GRINDERS!!! Your did with the following Some would argue the freshmen got off lightly. Two of the 7 on the Council adjudicating the player's indiscetions wanted them expelled. But they were allowed to stay in school while not being allowed in to play basketball. They did not lose a year of eligibility (essentially they are taking a forced redshirt to realize their mistake and grow up). Fact is, without the details coming out as the school is bound by federal privacy laws, the freshmen screwed up big-time. They also violated the school's Code of Conduct. At the beginning of every year, all freshmen are given a copy of the Code of Conduct Handbook. In addition, the basketball team, in light of the Mondy/Lacy/Still fiasco, was told that they would be held to high standards as eyes were on them. Cooley made several speeches proclaiming "the new sheriff in town mantra". Read more: friartownhoops.proboards.com/thread/3221/mcgair-fallout-pc-decision#ixzz2psWYezyQ
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Post by thumper on Jan 9, 2014 7:40:34 GMT -5
Who ever said the ruling body was made of 7 students? PIZZA, SODA, GRINDERS!!! Your did with the following Some would argue the freshmen got off lightly. Two of the 7 on the Council adjudicating the player's indiscetions wanted them expelled. But they were allowed to stay in school while not being allowed in to play basketball. They did not lose a year of eligibility (essentially they are taking a forced redshirt to realize their mistake and grow up). Fact is, without the details coming out as the school is bound by federal privacy laws, the freshmen screwed up big-time. They also violated the school's Code of Conduct. At the beginning of every year, all freshmen are given a copy of the Code of Conduct Handbook. In addition, the basketball team, in light of the Mondy/Lacy/Still fiasco, was told that they would be held to high standards as eyes were on them. Cooley made several speeches proclaiming "the new sheriff in town mantra". Read more: friartownhoops.proboards.com/thread/3221/mcgair-fallout-pc-decision#ixzz2psWYezyQYou need to work on your reading comprehension. Where does it say there were 7 students on the Council? WHERE??? Spend less time on your agenda and take it a bit slowly. Breathe in, breathe out ... PIZZA, SODA, GRINDERS!!!
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Post by thewalk on Jan 9, 2014 8:45:19 GMT -5
do you know the make up of the council?
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Post by friarfaithful on Jan 9, 2014 11:50:54 GMT -5
do you know the make up of the council? "At the discretion of the director of community standards (or designee), charges may be heard by a Community Standards Board. Matters involving sexual misconduct normally will be heard by a Community Standards Board. The primary difference between a Formal Hearing and Board Hearing is the identity of the decision-maker(s) – in a Formal Hearing, one or more members of the Office of Community Standards serve as the hearing officers; in a Board Hearing, five members of the PC community with student, faculty, and staff representation serving as the hearing officers (with student, staff and faculty alternates), and the director of community standards (or designee) will serve as a nonvoting member of the Board as to the finding of “responsible” or “not responsible”. When a student is found responsible, the Board shall make recommendations to the director of community standards, or designee, as to the sanctions to be imposed. The director of community standards may determine that a quorum of one student, one staff, and one faculty member may constitute the hearing officers in a Board Hearing when warranted by the circumstances of a particular case." www.providence.edu/residence-life/Documents/student-handbook.pdf
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Post by thumper on Jan 9, 2014 13:37:32 GMT -5
Thank you Friarfaithful.
Think info this was posted somewhere weeks ago and you've saved me from having to look things up.
PIZZA, SODA, GRINDERS!!!
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Post by pembroke04 on Jan 9, 2014 16:44:35 GMT -5
What was father Shanley's role in this process?
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Post by diehardfriar on Jan 9, 2014 17:25:20 GMT -5
Your did with the following Some would argue the freshmen got off lightly. Two of the 7 on the Council adjudicating the player's indiscetions wanted them expelled. But they were allowed to stay in school while not being allowed in to play basketball. They did not lose a year of eligibility (essentially they are taking a forced redshirt to realize their mistake and grow up). Fact is, without the details coming out as the school is bound by federal privacy laws, the freshmen screwed up big-time. They also violated the school's Code of Conduct. At the beginning of every year, all freshmen are given a copy of the Code of Conduct Handbook. In addition, the basketball team, in light of the Mondy/Lacy/Still fiasco, was told that they would be held to high standards as eyes were on them. Cooley made several speeches proclaiming "the new sheriff in town mantra". Read more: friartownhoops.proboards.com/thread/3221/mcgair-fallout-pc-decision#ixzz2psWYezyQYou need to work on your reading comprehension. Where does it say there were 7 students on the Council? WHERE??? Spend less time on your agenda and take it a bit slowly. Breathe in, breathe out ... PIZZA, SODA, GRINDERS!!! Two of the 7 on the Council adjudicating the player's indiscetions wanted them expelled. what does that mean then?
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Post by thumper on Jan 9, 2014 17:52:12 GMT -5
If I have to explain that, you are on a much lower plane than I and I am not going to play this game anymore.
PIZZA, SODA, GRINDERS!!!
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