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Post by pc88 on Feb 7, 2016 9:31:25 GMT -5
What are the suggestions to fix?
Walk always talks Flex and I think he is right on this when we get in the half court.
The league has seen enough of the pick and roll to solve it at this point.
There is very little ball movement and rarely do we see an extra pass.
I'd love to know our FG% in the last 10 seconds of the shot clock...I'd guess under 15%
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Post by dex on Feb 7, 2016 9:57:41 GMT -5
VILLANOVA 72, PC 60
FRIAR & ICE
Another cold shooting effort puts PC in early hole
By Kevin McNamara Journal Sports Writer
PROVIDENCE — Over the course of an impressive start to the season, Providence somehow balanced a dangerous tendency of starting slow and finishing fast.
That recipe led to an 18-4 start and a spot in the Top 10 of the national polls, but over the last five days it has cost Ed Cooley’s team two games and oodles of mojo. After falling behind by 11 points early and losing at DePaul on Tuesday, the Friars welcomed first-place Villanova to a sold-out Dunkin’ Donuts Center on Saturday and promptly laid an egg. Playing the highest-ranked team to come to town in five years, the Friars came out flatter than flat and couldn’t close out a second-half comeback in a 72-60 loss to the No. 3 Wildcats.
Villanova (20-3, 10-1 Big East) avenged an 82-76 overtime loss to PC in Philadelphia two weeks ago while the Friars (18-6, 6-5) fell for the third time in four games. The Friars are now 2-4 at home against Big East opponents, and Cooley admitted being concerned about his team’s mental state as the cold, hard days of February unfold.
“The team psyche right now, we have to see where it’s at,” he said. “We’re hitting a little bit of adversity, so we’ll see what we’re made of as we go on the road and play at Marquette, where we haven’t won [0-9 all time] in God knows how long. It’s one of those moments where you have to be very, very disciplined. You have to have a simple message to your team. It’s a long season, and I still think we’re in good shape.”
PC's problems aren’t difficult to quantify. The Friars are not a good shooting team, and when the offense bottoms out, they rely too much on a gritty defense to bail out. That was the case at DePaul (30 percent second-half shooting) and once again on Saturday as the Friars made just three of their first 20 shots and fell behind by 29-10 after the opening 14 minutes.
The Friars trailed 31-19 at the half after shooting 23 percent from the floor. Villanova led, 40-23, with 17:40 to play before the Friars finally began to make some shots. A dizzying 75-second stretch that featured three consecutive 3-point shots turned a 56-41 deficit to 56-50 with 5:58 left. PC’s Ryan Fazekas swished his third 3-pointer of the game to make it 58-53 with 5:16 to play, and a Ben Bentil trey kept PC in position (63-57) with three minutes on the clock. But two misses by the Friars were topped by a clutch 3-pointer by Ryan Arcidiacono that proved to be enough to stem the tide for the Wildcats.
Villanova executed under pressure, shooting 50 percent in the second half and blocking out a crazed crowd of 12,883, the largest for a PC home game since 2008.
“This was a great road victory for us against an outstanding team, in an electric college basketball environment. Today was special to be a part of,” said Wildcats coach Jay Wright.
Darryl Reynolds stepped in for starting center Daniel Ochefu (concussion) and led Villanova with a career-high 19 points. Arcidiacono added 16 and Hart scored 14 for the Wildcats.
K r i s D u n n s t r u g g l e d offensively once again, shooting 4 of 15 and finishing with 11 points and six turnovers. Bentil shook off a sore ankle to lead all scorers with 20 points, 18 of which dominated the second-half comeback. Dunn and Bentil shot a combined 10 of 26. The rest of the team finished 9-for-31. PC is shooting 38 percent as a team in 11 Big East games, good for ninth out of 10 teams.
Shooting like that has consistently put the Friars in deep holes. PC began 1 of 9 from the floor and fell behind, 10-0 and 12-3. Once again a reliance on the early 3-pointer was fool’s gold as six of the team’s first 12 shots were 3’s.
PC didn’t convert a two-point field goal until the 12:08 mark, and by that time Villanova was up, 16-8. The 29-10 first-half deficit was the largest of the season and simply could not be trumped.
Cooley made note of another large rebounding disparity (46-29) and said, “This is the second game where we’ve been annihilated on the glass.” Kyron Cartwright, the team’s (barely) 6-foot guard, was the top rebounder, with six.
— kmcnamar@providence journal.com
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Post by friarbrown on Feb 7, 2016 10:28:19 GMT -5
Only silver lining I see is Fazekas making shots. Maybe sit either junior or Cartwright for Zeke? Probably go back to that flex like walk said. I dont think the offense is the biggest problem right now. We are getting destroyed on the boards and its allowing teams to get second and third chances to our one.
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Post by friar80 on Feb 7, 2016 10:33:01 GMT -5
Thought the same thing about the flex assuming they had practiced it with this group.
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Post by oaklawnbob on Feb 7, 2016 10:53:59 GMT -5
The starting line up needs to change. The line up of Dunn, KC, Junior, Bullock and Bentil doesn't scare any team. They can leave Junior, Bullock and KC alone and concentrate on Dunn and Bentil. Once again we are a team focused of 2 offensive people. Need to add Zeke in there to keep the D honest and he has to get some passes his way. Knock off all of the 3 point misses and bring it in to inside the 3 point arc and shoot from there. Much higher % from there. Spread the D and the inside will open for Kris to drive and dish or go to the hoop. The team is too predictable right now and every team knows how to play against us.
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Post by dex on Feb 7, 2016 11:32:08 GMT -5
...compare Nova 1st game vs 2nd game 1. Dunn 13 pts 14 assists 5 rebs 4 steals KC 13 pts
Albear 12 pts 2. Dunn 11 pts 3 assists 4 rebs 4 steals KC 0 pts Albear 0 pts
I don't need a house to fall on me to know why Kris did not have double digit assists or why the middle was clogged
The one guy who could actually make some shots kept being replaced by albear ..and pls don't give me the bullsh!t it was for defense
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Post by oaklawnbob on Feb 7, 2016 11:55:08 GMT -5
Who is Albear Dex?-Junior?
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Post by mikes27 on Feb 7, 2016 11:56:43 GMT -5
from what I see every game, when we get a rebound we slow down, when we were having success in the non-conference we were rebounding and running. We have no Half court offense
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Post by oaklawnbob on Feb 7, 2016 11:58:51 GMT -5
Never mind Dex-figured it out-Albert "junior".
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Post by drairf on Feb 7, 2016 12:28:16 GMT -5
Dex, I think you're letting Dunn off the hook way too easily by pointing to the faults of others. His adjustments to that, and the decisions he's made, have not been good.
Unless we we want to admit that because he can't create his own offense like Cotton (see UNC game), he's completely dependent on being surrounded by shooters. I think that's a fair thing to say, I guess.
Take away two breakaway layups and Dunn's stats were not much better than anyone yesterday, especially considering volume of shots.
Agree that Fazekas should be starting and playing many more minutes. I'll give up the defense. When Cartwright was inserted into the starting lineup I actually thought it was going to be back to Zeke starting.
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Post by dex on Feb 7, 2016 14:48:24 GMT -5
POINT WELL TAKEN DRAIF....I don't mean to come off as an apologist for anybody. Kris is a mess right now and Cooley says as much in the projo this morning. it's more serious than one would have thought when the coach indicates it's an ingredient to our inconsistent play. For example...when Kris was kicking out to KC and Albear 2 weeks ago in Philly he had 14 assists and you must have thought like the rest of us that he was making his mates better. Not too shabby against the Hoyas too.
Now yesterday when doing the same thing like feeding an alone Albear in the corner, the entire Dunk moans and yells...What the freak is he going to do with it? BTW...the team can't play better than they did in Philly and it was still an OT game. So they put in Zeke yesterday and he hits a couple as we are closing in on the bastages and the coach yanks him for Albear. Could you hear the moan on the TV from the crowd when that happened? It's a team sport and this team is not that good wherein 3 guys can do squat and still win...at least against the #3 team in the country. In my mind it's sometimes like pick your poison...I can keep kicking it out to Albear and KC when they are doing absolutely nothing or I can try to make something happen...until the coach figures something out.(ie put Zeke in or Drew to try to hit a shot)
Having said all that...do you think we lose yesterday if Ben could defend and rebound like when he's healthy AND Al and KC (starters mind you) get even 6 pts each? Do you think we lose to Depaul if Ben doesn't get hurt? My answers are NO and NO So all is not lost.
As for Kris being inconsistent, I think it has something to do with the inconsistent play of his mates and Ben's injury....BUT not everything to do with those two things...as Cooley points out today in projo. No easy answers with this group but I don't make 2 mill per year to figure out how to put Kris and the team in the best position to succeed.
Others have posted that Cooley said this would be his best shooting team ever. Others have posted stats today that it could be his worst shooting team ever. So you are the PG on the 9th or 10th worst shooting team in the conference and sometimes you get 14 assists in Philly and sometimes you SHOULD have gotten 18 assists against Marquette at The Dunk. I won't even get into Rodney since Butler, who I know is playing out of position often, but for crice sakes lately I pass him the ball and it's a coin-flip as to whether he catches it without a bobble.
If Ben is healthy we need to go up to Milwaukee and punch those Golden Eagles in the nose and run them out of the their own building. They beat us at home with 3 frosh and we have been in the top 11 twice. If on the other hand Ben is still hurt, we are screwed.
Maybe friartv or some other place has John and Joe and FiFio on the post-game show...I listened to Hassett speak about shooting and scoring...he simplified for me what is ailing this team...and to a certain extent Kris. It was an enlightening and he was really unburdening himself of what he has been thinking.
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Post by dex on Feb 7, 2016 14:50:13 GMT -5
PC hopes Dunn’s recent struggles are temporary
By Kevin McNamara Journal Sports Writer
PROVIDENCE — Not surprisingly, when Kris Dunn struggles the Friars are hard-pressed to win.
That’s been the case the last two games. Dunn’s superb season has hit what PC fans hope is just a speed bump in the first consecutive losses of the year. Dunn shot 9-for-35 from the floor in losses to DePaul and Villanova, and his teammates didn’t do enough to make amends.
“Right now, he needs our help. We’ve been on his shoulders for a long time,” said coach Ed Cooley.
Dunn nearly brought the Friars back from an 11-point deficit at DePaul but couldn’t close the door down the stretch. On Saturday against the third-ranked Wildcats, Dunn and his teammates got off to a horrid start in the first half and couldn’t recover. The point guard shot 3 of 11 with four turnovers in the opening 20 minutes. He finished with 11 points, six turnovers and three assists.
“I think he’s trying to do too much sometimes,” Cooley said. “I think he’s putting a lot of pressure on himself.”
Cooley added that the glare of the spotlight, plus other “pressures” of being one of the nation’s top players, have begun to show on the New London, Conn., native.
“There are so many external pressures that he’s dealing with as an individual. Everything could be coming at him a thousand miles an hour right now,” Cooley said. “Hopefully, I can do a better job to ease some of his stress, some of his thoughts.”
Dunn is being talked about as a top-10 NBA Draft pick. His family is certainly hearing from prospective agents and others who tend to chase future potential millionaires. NBA executives are watching him on a nightly basis. Boston Celtics president Danny Ainge sat courtside on Saturday.
“When you put yourself into his shoes, it’s coming at him now,” Cooley said. “In the future that’s what they’ll be paying him to do. But right now we need him to be a college student and a college player. Right now I don’t know if he’s playing for the joy of it versus the pressure of it.”
Asked what he can do to get Dunn rolling again, Cooley said, “Just focus on the simple things. Don’t turn the ball over. Let the game come to him versus him forcing things, especially in the lane. Keep it simple.”
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Post by thewalk on Feb 7, 2016 16:13:50 GMT -5
Dunns not a score first guard....the comparisons to murdock are silly. Look at that supporting cast.
I don't think the abandonment of the flex and our horrendous shooting are unrelated. Flex requires discipline and slows the game down which isn't in dunns best interest. It also requires the defense to guard all 5 as even our guys can make an unguarded layup. But cooley is letting dunn audition...
Telling play to me was Lindsey unable to beat nova to the hoop after stealing a half court pass....
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Post by dex on Feb 7, 2016 17:51:53 GMT -5
friar80 wrote: "Thought the same thing about the flex assuming they had practiced it with this group."
If they did practice flex it was minimal...cooley had in his mind he was going to push the ball and take more shots than the opponent in pre-season plus he claimed this was his best shooting team and also the quickest ever.
From a personal perspective catching and bounce passing might Not be Rodney's strength at the moment so we could be spending some time chasing down loose balls and I shutter to think of KC or Albert raising up at the elbow for a jumper as the clock expires. A little different when Cotton or Henton did it.
Anyway never say never if this BS continues on the offensive end
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Post by thewalk on Feb 7, 2016 17:56:42 GMT -5
We won't see it this year...
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