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Post by thumper on Jul 18, 2015 21:31:40 GMT -5
82...,studs are defined as what? Does quadree smith qualify as a recruiting stud? There was no "if" with 71s statement on bullock and Lindsey though there probably should have been. We've recruited enough top 150 players that a couple should work out into the core of Bentil and dunn....I'm just not ready to say it's those two. You are always just not ready to say anything positive about anything. Must be tough living under that dark cloud 24/7. PIZZA, SODA, GRINDERS!!!
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Post by pc1971 on Jul 18, 2015 22:11:46 GMT -5
82...,studs are defined as what? Does quadree smith qualify as a recruiting stud? There was no "if" with 71s statement on bullock and Lindsey though there probably should have been. We've recruited enough top 150 players that a couple should work out into the core of Bentil and dunn....I'm just not ready to say it's those two. You are always just not ready to say anything positive about anything. Must be tough living under that dark cloud 24/7. PIZZA, SODA, GRINDERS!!! You are so right Thumper. A good example of Walk's positivity was his statement, on this very board circa January 2014, that none of Cotton,Batts,Henton, or Dunn would ever be on an NCAA Team. We all know how wrong he was on that one.
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Post by frione on Jul 19, 2015 3:30:51 GMT -5
The walk what I am trying to figure out is why and what do you have against Quadree Smith. Why do you take every opportunity to snipe at this you know nothing about. You are a weak excuse of a man do us all a favor and walk off a cliff. You have nothing positive to say because your life has amount to nothing. You are a wash up wanna be that never made it and you mad at the world. LOL what joke of a man you are. Since you have nothing to do. why don't you look up every player on the team 10th grade year in high school. See if everybody started maybe this will give you a reason to live but most importantly learn how to stop hating. I got news for you .(the walk is not a part of the coaching staff I trust them over a wash up bum like you). matter of fact you are probably from a another school who call they watching us. You are not welcome on this thread about providence period. Now go find the cliff we was talking about you walking off. Thanks lame
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Post by wtm97 on Jul 19, 2015 7:45:04 GMT -5
Easy now - walk has been posting here and there for a long long time - he just is a glass half-filled guy who plays the skeptic...
Not defending but what he last said was...
Think that was fair comment, no?
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Post by friar82 on Jul 19, 2015 8:36:39 GMT -5
82...,studs are defined as what? Does quadree smith qualify as a recruiting stud? There was no "if" with 71s statement on bullock and Lindsey though there probably should have been. We've recruited enough top 150 players that a couple should work out into the core of Bentil and dunn....I'm just not ready to say it's those two. Walk, taking this back to my initial post, there was an "if" in 71s statement when he posted: "....If PC inks at least two studs in the Fall..." My understanding is that 71 was refering to future (TBD) recruits, so I'm not sure why you're pulling Q into this (?). In either event and because you asked, my interpretation of a stud recruit would most likely entail a player who has the skills, attitude and physical tools needed to be a significant contributor (as opposed to a serviceable backup, day one). A guy like Reynolds was a stud the first day he walked on the Xavier campus.
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Post by pc1971 on Jul 19, 2015 11:38:11 GMT -5
82...,studs are defined as what? Does quadree smith qualify as a recruiting stud? There was no "if" with 71s statement on bullock and Lindsey though there probably should have been. We've recruited enough top 150 players that a couple should work out into the core of Bentil and dunn....I'm just not ready to say it's those two. Walk, taking this back to my initial post, there was an "if" in 71s statement when he posted: "....If PC inks at least two studs in the Fall..." My understanding is that 71 was refering to future (TBD) recruits, so I'm not sure why you're pulling Q into this (?). In either event and because you asked, my interpretation of a stud recruit would most likely entail a player who has the skills, attitude and physical tools needed to be a significant contributor (as opposed to a serviceable backup, day one). A guy like Reynolds was a stud the first day he walked on the Xavier campus. Good reading comprehension 82.you understand. Thank you.
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Post by thewalk on Jul 19, 2015 12:00:50 GMT -5
71 - sorry - Never made that comment or anything close to it about us making the ncaas. Please find that post.
And fri one- it's nothing against Q the player but he is only considered a 2 star recruit. What qualifies as a stud?
Strictly based on freshman year production wouldn't Cartwright figure to be a bigger contributor than Lindsey?
82 - those stud recruits will never play with dunn so I'm not sure how they fit into the core 4 but my comprehension needs work.....
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Post by pcdad on Jul 19, 2015 12:14:46 GMT -5
I thought Walk was raising the question as to why pc1971 had no "if" concerning Bullock and Lindsey. Pc1971 included them as part of the core surrounding Dunn.
The "if" surrounding two Fall signees was not the question Walk was asking.
Hey, but Walk can clarify his statement/question himself. He willingly opines and engages this banter. Because he is not always waving pom -poms and chooses to rely on a healthy dose of skepticism does not make him any less of a Friar fan.
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Apart from Friar basketball Walk is the guy who sees Lew Alcindor's one HS loss to DeMatha despite his fine performance against a double team than Alcindor's previous unbeaten HS career including a previous win versus DeMatha.
Walk focuses on the battle rather than the war. He challenges others opinions. Fine with me.
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Post by friar82 on Jul 19, 2015 12:52:46 GMT -5
It appears that you're critiquing 71s comments from another angle now. Not that I have to speak for 71 (but given that you're addressing me), but he stated that: "...My concern right now is for 2016-2017 and thereafter.And that has everything to do with recruiting.If PC inks at least two studs in the Fall ,then that worry will be allayed...". In other words (at least how I read it), 71's somewhat comfortable with the core this coming season... but more concerned about the following year (when we all agree that Dunn will have opted out to join the draft), and years thereafter (when Dunn will in fact be gone) Read more: friartownhoops.proboards.com/thread/5268/big-east-conference-skepticism?page=2#ixzz3gMO1o5iQ71 - sorry - Never made that comment or anything close to it about us making the ncaas. Please find that post. And fri one- it's nothing against Q the player but he is only considered a 2 star recruit. What qualifies as a stud? Strictly based on freshman year production wouldn't Cartwright figure to be a bigger contributor than Lindsey? 82 - those stud recruits will never play with dunn so I'm not sure how they fit into the core 4 but my comprehension needs work.....
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Post by frione on Jul 19, 2015 16:03:30 GMT -5
Friar 82 I don't get caught up on ranking. because I know how over rated that garbage is. I have seen Kids come in with all the hype 5,4 stars and don't do jack in college. We all just saw a 5 star top 5 recruit go un drafted in cliff alexander. That only prove my point about how many stars a kid got. It will be a very long list of kids that people rank wrong or overlook. Did you read Steph Curry scouting report coming out high school now he is a NBA MVP and a champion. Tom Brady 6th Round pick who now a all time great 4 super bowl wins. JJ watt rank a 2 star recruit who is now the best defensive player in the NFL. On the flip side it's a long list of bust out of high school and college. The point I am making with the walk is stop attacking the kid Quadree Smith. He used every opportunity to bring the kid up and put him down. why because some dude didn't give him enough stars for his liking. he has even made threads just to attack that kid it's really crazy and weak. I trust the coaching staff unlike some people. It's some many of yall getting worked up for nothing. Coach Ed and his staff has done a tremendous job for providence. Has it ever dawn on you all that he is not looking for the one and done kid. Providence college is a school with about 4,000 kids. you gotta like small class rooms and a small campus to come here. This is a blue collar school most kids want the glitz and glamor and frame of a large school let's face that fact. Oh one more thing They have Q as a 3 star recruit. Some of you all look like captain A-Hab chasing Moby Dick with your obsession of how many stars a kid got. Show me on the court not on paper.
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Post by friar82 on Jul 19, 2015 16:47:51 GMT -5
Understood.
I don't get too caught up with the number of "stars" next to a kid's name.
Through the years, PC has had its share of under-the-radar recruits who have developed into All Conference and All American players. Over the past decade, Ryan Gomes, Herb Hill, Byrce Cotton and LaDontae Henton come to mind.
It would be unfair to tag any of our new kids as "studs" out of the gate. Looking forward to seeing what each bring - and watching their games grow at PC!
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Post by pc1971 on Jul 19, 2015 17:21:26 GMT -5
71 - sorry - Never made that comment or anything close to it about us making the ncaas. Please find that post. And fri one- it's nothing against Q the player but he is only considered a 2 star recruit. What qualifies as a stud? Strictly based on freshman year production wouldn't Cartwright figure to be a bigger contributor than Lindsey? 82 - those stud recruits will never play with dunn so I'm not sure how they fit into the core 4 but my comprehension needs work..... Walk, You did.January 7,2014 if you want to look it up and read it. I speak the truth.
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Post by pc1971 on Jul 19, 2015 17:21:55 GMT -5
It appears that you're critiquing 71s comments from another angle now. Not that I have to speak for 71 (but given that you're addressing me), but he stated that: "...My concern right now is for 2016-2017 and thereafter.And that has everything to do with recruiting.If PC inks at least two studs in the Fall ,then that worry will be allayed...". In other words (at least how I read it), 71's somewhat comfortable with the core this coming season... but more concerned about the following year (when we all agree that Dunn will have opted out to join the draft), and years thereafter (when Dunn will in fact be gone) Read more: friartownhoops.proboards.com/thread/5268/big-east-conference-skepticism?page=2#ixzz3gMO1o5iQ71 - sorry - Never made that comment or anything close to it about us making the ncaas. Please find that post. And fri one- it's nothing against Q the player but he is only considered a 2 star recruit. What qualifies as a stud? Strictly based on freshman year production wouldn't Cartwright figure to be a bigger contributor than Lindsey? 82 - those stud recruits will never play with dunn so I'm not sure how they fit into the core 4 but my comprehension needs work.....
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Post by pc1971 on Jul 19, 2015 17:24:10 GMT -5
It appears that you're critiquing 71s comments from another angle now. Not that I have to speak for 71 (but given that you're addressing me), but he stated that: "...My concern right now is for 2016-2017 and thereafter.And that has everything to do with recruiting.If PC inks at least two studs in the Fall ,then that worry will be allayed...". In other words (at least how I read it), 71's somewhat comfortable with the core this coming season... but more concerned about the following year (when we all agree that Dunn will have opted out to join the draft), and years thereafter (when Dunn will in fact be gone) Read more: friartownhoops.proboards.com/thread/5268/big-east-conference-skepticism?page=2#ixzz3gMO1o5iQ Once again 82 exhibits reading comprehension that some people do not seem to be able to accomplish. Thank you Sir.
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Post by thewalk on Jul 19, 2015 20:24:16 GMT -5
Once again, I fail to see how Lindsey and bullock have worked their way into our core four. One hasn't played in two years and the other put up donuts in several games last year...it could happen by why them over anyone else.
..and I said there's a chance none would be on a tourney team...included council as well..
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