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Post by TheInfoMan on Mar 25, 2015 16:13:40 GMT -5
A look back into June 2013 from a post by WTM97: Chad Ford Mock Draft 5.0 25 Ricky Ledo Los Angeles Clippers COLLEGE: Providence AGE: 23 HT: 6-6 WT: 197 POS: SG Analysis: Ledo continues to draw praise from every team for which he works out. The Clippers appear to be especially high on him. I think Ledo could end up going higher (maybe even much higher) on draft night. A few teams in the late lottery and mid-first round are taking a look. But if he lands here, it's a steal for the Clippers, who have a track record of taking young players later in the draft and developing them. Read more: friartownhoops.proboards.com/thread/2269/ricardo-ledo?page=3#ixzz3VQyzRMba
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Post by HolyMoly on Mar 26, 2015 1:42:30 GMT -5
pawtuckettimes.com/node/11549If you think NBA scouts or front office types are suddenly sour on Kris Dunn just because the final image of him is a 4-for-13 shooting performance with seven turnovers sprinkled in against Dayton, think again. “If they had moved on, the kid was only going to get more hype. With a national audience, that changes a lot of stuff,” said an NBA scout. “That was cut short so know we’ll see once the dust settles.” On the mock draft pieced together by draftexpress.com, Dunn is listed as the potential 15th overall player chosen. Over at nbadraft.net, the website has Dunn going No. 22 to the San Antonio Spurs Okay but maybe a better way to put it was he could have played himself into the lottery with a pair of wins and plus performances. but then he would've 100% been bye bye
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Post by mikemc on Mar 26, 2015 4:17:24 GMT -5
"Providence associate head coach Andre LaFleur said that Dunn, who’s played just one full season and 62 career games overall, would benefit for another year, but also realizes the sophomore has a chance to fulfill a dream. “I think so,” said LaFleur when asked if he thinks Dunn will return next season. “I think his future is bright. He’s continuing to develop. We’ll see.” We can only hope... www.theday.com/local-college-sports/20150326/should-he-stay-or-should-he-go....gotta love friartown...
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Post by wtm97 on Mar 26, 2015 6:49:09 GMT -5
Interesting article with a lot of substance in what is the key to our programs short term future. Do know talk about the family and Kris himself valuing his degree is not blather - it is sincere as Kris is a very good student who likes PC very very much. Also believe him when he says the shoulder injury fear is not a factor - good for him because playing 'scared' is no way to live or play hoops let alone as a reason to advance to the NBA.
Do know Cooley will present the insurance option as well as the concept that his game does need more work (it does); whereas IF he is a top 15 lottery pick, he probably has to go as the league does draft on potential - and he sure can refine his game at the next level.
Selfishly we all want him back yet if he departs his continued success will also be a plus for Ed Cooley's developing program at PC - and that is something, much like Dunn's game, that also needs work!
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Post by HolyMoly on Mar 26, 2015 17:48:25 GMT -5
Interesting article, the one clarification I would have liked to know is the 2% chance of re-injuring the shoulder. Is that just a universal percentage on labrum tears for basketball players or is Kris specifically more susceptible to a specific injury? If it's the latter then I feel that could sway one's decision towards entering the draft. If they MRI that shoulder tomorrow and say "Kris your shoulder is healed but the damage that was done before, could still lead to problems in the future"(for whatever medical reason)
If that's the case and his camp is confident he will go in the 1st round then he should 100% go.
We all want the best player in the country next year(and the success that it will bring) possibly in a Friar uniform but the last thing any of us would want is to see him return and crumple to the floor holding his shoulder which would arguably end his NBA aspirations.
As a fan, I'd rather play in the NIT for a year
2% sounds like nothing but it's definitely not 0.02%
After reading this article it just seems to have completely went from a family/coach decision to a doctors decision. Go get some of the top medical opinions from these experienced shoulder specialists that are out there today.
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Post by HolyMoly on Mar 26, 2015 18:06:07 GMT -5
....they're only telling him what he wants to hear if they "guarantee" they'd pick him and don't.....the Ledos and Shamgods were hearing it from one team....and the one team was sitting in the 25-30 range....Dunn appears to be hearing from multiple teams starting as low as 15 with the celts.... and this is also something kids have to watch out for good reason to believe these GM's tell all these kids to come out because why??? If you're picking say #23 and 20 underclassmen declared opposed to just 10, well then that team picking #23 is gonna have more options and higher rated players available when that pick rolls around!! example: Kris Dunn goes #22..........Marcus Paige falls to the Wolves at #23 and it also makes the 2nd round that much stronger where teams get chances to nab players with 1st round type talent(ex:Ledo)
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Post by HolyMoly on Mar 26, 2015 18:11:47 GMT -5
Point being you can't believe a word these scouts/GM's are feeding you. They have a job to do and it has nothing to do with protecting the players best interests......or most of time anyway
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Post by charl on Mar 28, 2015 12:40:55 GMT -5
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Post by mikemc on Mar 28, 2015 13:12:47 GMT -5
"Dunn is clearly one of the most talented guard prospects in this draft class, with some extremely impressive characteristics, and weaknesses that can and should be improved upon in time. He'll likely do extremely well in private workouts and has a chance to really rise up draft boards as we get closer to the end of June. While he's a little older than some of his peers who will be drafted in the top-20, at 21 years old, he clearly still has a great deal of upside left to tap into due to his lack of experience at the college level and his terrific physical tools." From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz3VhmzcghW Being 21 years old very might be the deal breaker for us PC fans..I think he goes.. www.draftexpress.com....gotta love friartown...
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Post by thewalk on Mar 28, 2015 13:16:20 GMT -5
..he doesn't get the predraft workouts until he declares....correct?
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Post by mikemc on Mar 28, 2015 14:34:22 GMT -5
"In a memo issued on March 26th of this year, addressed to underclassmen considering testing the waters, the NCAA stated that “You may tryout with an NBA team during the academic year if you are enrolled full-time as long as you do not miss class. You may receive actual and necessary expenses from the NBA team in conjunction with one 48-hour tryout per team. The 48-hour tryout period begins when you arrive at the tryout location. At the completion of the 48-hour period you must depart the location of the tryout immediately in order to receive transportation expenses.” NBA teams we spoke with seemed pleased about the rule change. There seems to be no question that they will spare no expense to do as thorough an evaluation of the draft class as humanly possible, which means they will have no problem footing the bill. Not everyone was familiar with the memo, though, which is one of the reasons we decided to publish this article. What does that mean for the NBA draft process? For one, we should see a flood of underclassmen entering their name, particularly juniors, who clearly have nothing to lose. At worst they will benefit from attending a few private workouts, receiving professional feedback on their strengths and weaknesses, get put up in a nice hotel, and get familiarized with the process they will go through in the future when they are actually ready to play in the NBA. They must keep in mind that no private workouts can be held until the conclusion of the NBA pre-draft camp, which leaves under two weeks until the deadline to pullout of the draft, June 16th. Also, since underclassmen are only allowed to “test the waters” once, freshman and sophomores need to be very careful about wasting their lone opportunity if they are not seriously considered first round draft picks." From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz3Vi7fPTC5 www.draftexpress.comNot sure what year this came into play.. ....gotta love friartown...
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Post by friarbroadcaster on Mar 28, 2015 15:04:09 GMT -5
If you're Kris Dunn you have to AT LEAST test the waters...not doing himself justice if he doesn't.
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Post by craigl79 on Mar 28, 2015 17:07:56 GMT -5
"In a memo issued on March 26th of this year, addressed to underclassmen considering testing the waters, the NCAA stated that “You may tryout with an NBA team during the academic year if you are enrolled full-time as long as you do not miss class. You may receive actual and necessary expenses from the NBA team in conjunction with one 48-hour tryout per team. The 48-hour tryout period begins when you arrive at the tryout location. At the completion of the 48-hour period you must depart the location of the tryout immediately in order to receive transportation expenses.” NBA teams we spoke with seemed pleased about the rule change. There seems to be no question that they will spare no expense to do as thorough an evaluation of the draft class as humanly possible, which means they will have no problem footing the bill. Not everyone was familiar with the memo, though, which is one of the reasons we decided to publish this article. What does that mean for the NBA draft process? For one, we should see a flood of underclassmen entering their name, particularly juniors, who clearly have nothing to lose. At worst they will benefit from attending a few private workouts, receiving professional feedback on their strengths and weaknesses, get put up in a nice hotel, and get familiarized with the process they will go through in the future when they are actually ready to play in the NBA. They must keep in mind that no private workouts can be held until the conclusion of the NBA pre-draft camp, which leaves under two weeks until the deadline to pullout of the draft, June 16th. Also, since underclassmen are only allowed to “test the waters” once, freshman and sophomores need to be very careful about wasting their lone opportunity if they are not seriously considered first round draft picks." From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz3Vi7fPTC5 www.draftexpress.comNot sure what year this came into play.. ....gotta love friartown... The NCAA deadline to pull out of the draft is April 12th, so the June NBA deadline is meaningless for college players. Here are the key dates: April 12th: NCAA Early Entry Withdrawal Deadline April 26th: NBA Draft Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (10:59pm CT) April 29th: NBA teams can begin conducting and/or attending workouts with early entrants May 12th-17th: NBA Draft Combine (Chicago) May 19th: NBA Draft Lottery June 15th: NBA Draft Early Entry Withdrawal Deadline (4:00pm CT) June 25th: NBA Draft So up until April 12th you can put your name in and still take it back out. Between the 12th and the 26th you can put your name in but if you are a college player you can't take it back out. your going pro. After the 26th you can no longer put your name in.
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Post by thewalk on Mar 28, 2015 23:26:30 GMT -5
rkouts can be held until the conclusion of the NBA pre-draft camp, which leaves under two weeks until the deadline to pullout of the draft, June 16th. Also, since underclassmen are only allowed to “test the waters” once, freshman and sophomores need to be very careful about wasting their lone opportunity if they are not seriously considered first round draft picks."...this appears to be new...as in this week new...is it possible the key dates have changed?.., otherwise it's meaningless...also keep in mind if dunn can wait until June we are eff'd from a timing standpoint...
I misread the dates...so put name in April 12th and you can pull it out up to June...guess .that 4/12-4/26 period is for the benefit of college coaches so they know who's definitely gone...
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Post by craigl79 on Mar 29, 2015 0:13:30 GMT -5
no, you have to pull your name out of the draft by April 12th to retain eligibility
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