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Post by thumper on Apr 19, 2024 1:37:53 GMT -5
Life in college basketball hasn't always been grand. The NBA wouldn’t allow kids with NBA potential (and the need for $) to enter the draft, and the NCAA didn’t allow for them to get as little as a comped dinner. Yes, they could have gone pro in a foreign country, but that path never caught traction. Players found ways to get compensated, as they should have been, and the NCAA and schools have been playing from behind. Don’t hate the player, hate the game. At least in my opinion. I understand what you're saying but it's a pendulum that has, perhaps, swung too much in the player's direction and it's getting out of hand. There should be consequences for all if money and benefits are the motive. PIZZA,SODA,GRINDERS!!!
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Post by ELMHURST FRIAR on Apr 19, 2024 6:14:58 GMT -5
my sentiments exactly coaches move around, players should be able to as well I disagree with your last few words. Coaches have contracts. They also often have to pay to get out of their contracts. Colleges, on the other hand, extend free educations to the players. Additionally, colleges have to pay those players a nominal stipend. Nowadays, those educations cost the normal student $85k a year. ADDITIONALLY, now NIL money is available to them, sometimes allowing those players to earn more than many of their alum. And we don't make them sign a non-compete! To allow them the freedom to bounce around from school to school might benefit those players but it often hurts the programs they leave, many times because they didn't receive the gratification of immediate and unearned playing time. If the players want that freedom, why not force them to sign a contract as well. Say if they leave they forfeit a percentage of the educational cost they were provided as well as their nominal stipend. And maybe a percentage of that new NIL deal they'll sign. I think it has to be a two-way street. Teach them about the real world. We are an educational entity, aren't we? PIZZA, SODA, GRINDERS!!! Well said Thumper!!!
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Post by Rock on Apr 19, 2024 6:45:27 GMT -5
Most of the guys who are leaving their high major schools aren’t playing. Like I don’t care that Santoro left, he wants to play and he should seek out that opportunity. These guys who are going to 4 or 5 schools usually aren’t impact players or have had their coaches fired my sentiments exactly coaches move around, players should be able to as well Yeah, show me the coach that was at five programs in five years and we can talk. Thumper hits the other arguments on this well, even though some of them seem outdated now, unfortunately. What a mess.
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Post by bradcav on Apr 19, 2024 7:25:40 GMT -5
Take Brycen Goodine for an example. Goes to Cuse doesn’t play, transfers and it makes sense.
Goes closer to home at Providence, makes sense, I think most people here thought it was a good move for both parties. He’s out of the rotation here, who was clamoring for him to come back for year 3?
Goes down a level to Fairfield, makes sense
Then he has probably the only opportunity in his life to make real money playing basketball. How can you fault him for leaving Fairfield at that point?
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Post by friar71 on Apr 19, 2024 8:26:53 GMT -5
Take Brycen Goodine for an example. Goes to Cuse doesn’t play, transfers and it makes sense. Goes closer to home at Providence, makes sense, I think most people here thought it was a good move for both parties. He’s out of the rotation here, who was clamoring for him to come back for year 3? Goes down a level to Fairfield, makes sense Then he has probably the only opportunity in his life to make real money playing basketball. How can you fault him for leaving Fairfield at that point? I agree that Goodine was basically looking to find a spot where he could actually play. He also, in hindsight, chose PC but in reality should have dropped lower to get a chance of playing more. I wonder if Goodine even got a degree while he went to 3 schools? I also wonder if playing at Fairfield translated into him making "real money" after he turned pro.
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Post by bradcav on Apr 19, 2024 8:58:03 GMT -5
Take Brycen Goodine for an example. Goes to Cuse doesn’t play, transfers and it makes sense. Goes closer to home at Providence, makes sense, I think most people here thought it was a good move for both parties. He’s out of the rotation here, who was clamoring for him to come back for year 3? Goes down a level to Fairfield, makes sense Then he has probably the only opportunity in his life to make real money playing basketball. How can you fault him for leaving Fairfield at that point? I agree that Goodine was basically looking to find a spot where he could actually play. He also, in hindsight, chose PC but in reality should have dropped lower to get a chance of playing more. I wonder if Goodine even got a degree while he went to 3 schools? I also wonder if playing at Fairfield translated into him making "real money" after he turned pro. No that’s what I’m saying. It makes sense for him to leave Fairfield and play for a 4th school for the opportunity to make real money that presumably Fairfield NIL doesn’t have
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Post by johnnypc on Apr 19, 2024 11:05:22 GMT -5
I believe Goodine is a very good student.
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