mikemc
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Post by mikemc on Jun 25, 2019 9:30:07 GMT -5
Uconn women is 120-0 or something in the AAC with avg win differential 30+ ppg. Ridiculous. Its the dream team vs angola every game. In the old BE they were strong under Auriemma in the 90s and then dominant in the early to mid 2000s before the change to the AAC where now its just not even competitive at all. This says as much about the women's game and the depth issues than it does for any genius of Auriemma, imo. He has built his castle and now gets all the very recruits. The drop off is so severe after that and you get the result. That said I hope the BE to be a little more challenging on that side of the house. Would be healthier for their game if it wasn't so lopsided. Will also juice women's attendance at every school they visit. This should be a boon to the coffers of the BE warchest with the strong Uconn men's and women's programs added in. They have a huge alumni and fan base, partially just simply due to the size of their school combined of course with the success. I see strong attendance boosts to all teams they visit, and in their own home court which had been sliding big time in the AAC. I see MSG now definitely being sold out, probably across all days for the forseeable future and a added buzz. And I hope the TV situation is fluid as mentioned such that Fox will now kick in more $$$ to offset adding in Uconn, and maybe we all get a tad more. Further I wonder what the etrance fee will look like? Too many plusses for me not do this. Had the BE had more success outside of Villanova and the 1 Xavier run in March these last few years I'd have said no. But we didn't. The truth is this moves makes sense for both parties at this point in time, imo. Seriously??? Womens BBall being brought into the equation?? Who gives a crap about UCONN women's bball and their fannypacker fans. As Dex pointed out earlier, PC sells out games without UCONN on the schedule. Don't need them in Conf., we were on the verge of Home and Homes for strong OOC scheduling. EFF UCONN! ....gotta love friartown...
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Post by mikemc on Jun 25, 2019 10:18:28 GMT -5
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Post by dmac80 on Jun 25, 2019 11:13:40 GMT -5
Wow some nuggets in there. The writer claims some of the Uconn Board of Trustees (voting on joining or not joining the BE TOMORROW) were unaware of this move as of this past weekend and learned of it like the rest of us on the internet Friday night/Saturday morning? woah if true. He blames AD Benedict for not communicating. I'd say so if this is true. The thing with this piece is the writer is correct in that Football there is now officially dead at the FBS level. I would do the smart thing if I were them and drop down a level (FCS?) like other smaller football program schools and send them locally on buses and short trips rather than flying 100 football players and staff 1500 miles to lose 21-10 somewhere in front of 3500 people and no one on TV. Where I diverge from the writer is that Football was ever not dead. They saw the writing on the wall 20 years ago with football screwing over atheletics when they tried to jump into the game, can't blame them. But the truth is big time football in NE has never been a thing and at this point is too far behind to ever catch up. It's a fools errand to try. Uconn is finally admitting what many knew 5 years ago. The football thing didn't fail now, it failed long ago.
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Post by TheInfoMan on Jun 25, 2019 11:37:29 GMT -5
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Post by dmac80 on Jun 25, 2019 11:45:58 GMT -5
So this only talks about the costs to leave. We don't know what the entrance fee will be, right?
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Post by friarj on Jun 25, 2019 12:32:28 GMT -5
You sound like a UConn fan Dex. He is acting like a spurned lover. Dex, this Cooley Michigan thing really has your panties in a twist doesn't it? I would suggest letting it go, life is too short.
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Post by friarj on Jun 25, 2019 12:34:10 GMT -5
Gino goes from one conference....to another conference.... That's one of my two points. And he (and they) would not skip a beat if the ACC were to call. The ACC is not calling, ever. it's over. UConn is a BB school again.
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Post by Cteve on Jun 25, 2019 14:20:21 GMT -5
~"Board of Trustees " They knew: Tranghese did everything he could to get them in the Big8. Failing that the BigEast was the next step.Only secret was the timing. So considerate of the AAC!
~cost UConn $12 million" I don't believe it will (not even close). I think the AAC could be sued or at least threatened!
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Post by dex on Jun 25, 2019 14:46:45 GMT -5
You sound like a UConn fan Dex. He is acting like a spurned lover. Dex, this Cooley Michigan thing really has your panties in a twist doesn't it? I would suggest letting it go, life is too short. LOL Hey J I'm over here trying to sell in the off-season...the place was quiet as a church mouse before this uconn debacle broke. We gotta a business to run here...as Moe Green said to Michael: Sometimes you gotta kick a little ass to make things run smoothly. I can't wait till the entry fee is announced and the riot begins.
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Post by friar82 on Jun 25, 2019 15:05:17 GMT -5
And with that, I'll provide my "Thought for the Day" on this string (as opposed to the "Advice for the Lovelorn & More" String found on the OT Board:
"...Take what life gives you...make lemons out of lemonade if you must - but never lose sight of the need to continuously Innovate"
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Post by friarj on Jun 25, 2019 15:21:53 GMT -5
He is acting like a spurned lover. Dex, this Cooley Michigan thing really has your panties in a twist doesn't it? I would suggest letting it go, life is too short. LOL Hey J I'm over here trying to sell in the off-season...the place was quiet as a church mouse before this uconn debacle broke. We gotta a business to run here...as Moe Green said to Michael: Sometimes you gotta kick a little ass to make things run smoothly. I can't wait till the entry fee is announced and the riot begins. Somehow you think becoming Walk is helping you sell this site? LOL
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Post by dex on Jun 25, 2019 19:11:20 GMT -5
Well Walk, the man of 6 PGs,has some interesting perspectives...like yesterday when he tried to BS the specimens here that uconn tried desperately to save the Big East. Fortunately Sgt At Arms Mike was around to not so gently disabuse him of that nugget.
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Post by friar71 on Jun 25, 2019 21:05:21 GMT -5
Well Walk, the man of 6 PGs,has some interesting perspectives...like yesterday when he tried to BS the specimens here that uconn tried desperately to save the Big East. Fortunately Sgt At Arms Mike was around to not so gently disabuse him of that nugget. In keeping with tradition, the Friar Dominicans were served from a fattened calf to celebrate the return of the BE Prodigal Son
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Post by dex on Jun 26, 2019 8:01:39 GMT -5
COLLEGE FOOTBALL UConn looking for home Move to Big East means football team will likely become an independent By Ralph D. Russo The Associated Press
NEW YORK — UConn football is on the road to independence and the American Athletic Conference is not feeling any pressure to replace the Huskies when they leave for the Big East.
The University of Connecticut is set to announce later this week that it will be leaving the AAC and rejoining the Big East, which does not sponsor football, in 2020.
The likely path for the Huskies’ football program is to be unaffiliated with a conference. That can be a scary proposition in the current landscape of college sports. Filling out a schedule and making ends meet financially without playing in a league can be tricky if not daunting — unless you are Notre Dame.
Still, it is a better alternative for UConn than dropping out of the highest level of Division I football. The Huskies are better positioned to make FBS independence work than some of the other schools that have gone that route recently.
The other current FBS independents are Army, BYU, New Mexico State, Liberty and Massachusetts, which is in the same region as UConn and has been going it alone since 2015.
UMass athletic director Ryan Bamford said while he would prefer Minutemen football to play in a conference, independence in FBS was an obvious choice over scaling back to second-tier FCS and finding a conference.
“For us it was never a consideration of dropping down,” Bamford said.
Bamford said competing in FCS brings down expenses tied to the number of scholarships, but it also is a drain on revenue and makes it more difficult to draw fans and donors.
The American’s new media rights deal will pay its members almost $7 million per year, starting in the 2020-21 academic year. The previous deal paid about $2 million. The Big East is in the middle of a deal with Fox that pays members more than $4 million annually.
Usually, when schools switch conferences they receive less than a full share of revenue for the first few years. UConn is also likely to be on the hook for upward of $10 million in exit fees to the American.
The Big East’s revenue distribution from the Fox deal, along with the millions the conference regularly pays to its members from the NCAA basketball tournament performance fund, should help break UConn’s financial fall.
On the scheduling side, UConn will have to fill eight more dates per season.
“Can you get enough games as an independent? And not just games, but games where you’re not putting your football program in peril ... Anybody can go get six buy games if they want to go get six buy games, but getting games against similar peer institutions,” Bamford said.
Buy games, those one-off road games schools play against power programs such as Alabama and Ohio State, are a way to generate revenue and the money is much better in FBS than FCS.
Bamford said UMass can receive payouts of up to $1.7 million to play road football games with no return game. The going rate for FCS schools is $350,000 to $450,000.
UConn already has a buy game scheduled with Clemson for 2021 worth $1.2 million.
UConn probably won’t need to overexpose its team to buy games. The Huskies already have locked in home-and-home series through 2025 against Illinois, Indiana, Duke, Purdue, Boston College and North Carolina State.
If UConn dropped down to FCS, those deals would go away.
Dave Brown, the former ESPN executive whose Gridiron software is used by most Division I schools to find future nonconference opponents, said UConn is likely to remain an attractive opponent for some Power Five schools.
The Huskies play at Rentschler Field, a 15-year-old $91-million stadium in East Hartford that seats 40,000 and is easily accessible to an airport. There are also teams in the region such as UMass Army, Temple, Navy, Rutgers and Syracuse that could view UConn as a sensible road trip
“Do I think teams generally would like to stay close to home? Sure,” Brown said. “If I don’t have to fly somewhere great. If all my fans, players families, recruits, if they can drive to the game, great.”
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Post by TheInfoMan on Jun 26, 2019 10:49:30 GMT -5
The American’s new media rights deal will pay its members almost $7 million per year, starting in the 2020-21 academic year. The previous deal paid about $2 million. The Big East is in the middle of a deal with Fox that pays members more than $4 million annually. Not that I give a hoot, but why would Ucant switch leagues at this point in light of those payout figures? Secondly if the BE payout is presently $4mil, why are the schools interested in an 11-way split instead of the current 10-way split? What the immediate gain under the current contract?
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