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Post by thewalk on Feb 23, 2017 14:19:30 GMT -5
hardly moved in lunardi and marq sits as the last four byes.
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Post by dex on Feb 23, 2017 14:35:13 GMT -5
The team flew home last night after the game. It's nice that the game is at 4 pm and not stupid Noon.
Just For Fun and leaving out possible runs in BET like SHU last year
Marquette has @xavier with Bluiett and Home vs Creighton There rpi is about 69 today
If the facts matter with the Committee, excluding the BET, IMO they are toast with a loss because they won't win Both of the next two
Seton Hall has @depaul Hoyas Home and @ Butler with an rpi today of like 48
They won't finish under .500 in Conference and IMO they are going to be IN as the 5th team
So if there is a 6th team from the BE, and I think there will be, it's going to be us or Marquette
If we win we won't finish under .500 even with a loss to Johnnies and we swept the Golden Eagles
So the season comes down to Saturday
We seem dependent on the 3-ball these days so if they go in at a reasonable clip we will win.
If not......
Regardless, after our start,I must say I did not expect to be in the conversation at this late date. Cooley and the team deserve kudos.
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Post by yankeefriar on Feb 23, 2017 14:36:14 GMT -5
NBC sports bracket updated today has in last 4 in.
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Post by dmac80 on Feb 23, 2017 14:43:39 GMT -5
In order of importance it is clear that the order went like this:
1)Win @ creighton (top 25 signature road win)/Win home against Depaul (drop this and our RPI plummets) 2)Win Sat vs Marquette (I believe loser is outside looking in, due to BE standing tie breakers) 3)Win @ SJU (a loss here could be made up possibly)
That said to not be sweating bullets on Selection Sunday we need 21 wins IMO..That would be stone cold lock I think.......... 20 and we're worrying about getting ACC'd by the committee, banished to an irrelevant (at this point) NIT home game against that dental school [/sarcasm] Oral Roberts.
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Post by thewalk on Feb 23, 2017 14:56:41 GMT -5
not sure if I'd ever say cold lock but I agree that if we beat marq and get to 21, we should be fine. Crazy.
to think this is all I wanted during the keno years....not sure why. This is torture.
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Post by dex on Feb 23, 2017 15:24:29 GMT -5
So let me get this straight with my two friends here...you think it takes 4 more wins which includes an opening round game in the BET to Dance. I find that might be overkill and a result of you guys being paranoid about the Committee the year we needed and won the BET to get in. I get it. However, I would suggest that Cooley has some equity built up with the Committee since that episode. Plus all you guys tell me the bubble is weak as heck. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the odds of our team winning 4 MORE to make it 7 straight are slim. Why you ask? Glad you did...because the law of averages says the 3-ball giveth and it taketh away. I think 10 conference wins would allow the committee to give the Big East that 6th invite...so if we lose it better not be in the regular season. I heard the opening line was basically a pickem with PC -1 Right now I have PC over at the Pickem contest but that is subject to change...need a sprained ankle on Cheatham and/or Johnson to cinch it
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Post by drairf on Feb 23, 2017 15:34:03 GMT -5
Man, if we win the next two, I’m going to be sauced by tip off at MSG on 3/4.
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Post by thewalk on Feb 23, 2017 16:21:57 GMT -5
3 win formula as I see it...WWLW (Xavier)...should be enough. not enough for me to break the Samsung if we don't get in but damn close.
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Post by dex on Feb 23, 2017 17:06:56 GMT -5
LOL Frig it let's win 4 in a row so I can relax too
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Post by bigsnoop on Feb 23, 2017 17:08:47 GMT -5
LOL Frig it let's win 4 in a row so I can relax too How about winning the next 12?
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Post by friar71 on Feb 23, 2017 18:12:18 GMT -5
LOL Frig it let's win 4 in a row so I can relax too Enjoy this while you can because in a few years there may not be an RPI and BPI according to Mark Cuban: Mark Cuban: No finance. That's the easiest thing — you just take the data have it spit out whatever you need. I personally think there's going to be a greater demand in 10 years for liberal arts majors than there were for programming majors and maybe even engineering, because when the data is all being spit out for you, options are being spit out for you, you need a different perspective in order to have a different view of the data. And so having someone who is more of a freer thinker.
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Post by thewalk on Feb 23, 2017 18:50:01 GMT -5
got not great news on the tourney front...assuming the magic number is 49, a 3 win scenario doesn't exist to get us below where we are now. In fact, we can really only go down without winning out and beating X. I think there's a scenario where we can move up one spot. An RPI in the mid50s keeps us out imo.
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Post by dex on Feb 23, 2017 19:55:50 GMT -5
walk is correct in reflecting the way it's always been.
However what Walk doesn't share is the scenario for this "weakest bubble ever" mantra he and others feed us which apparently is true.
OK Walk...thanks for the data about PC...just to be fair howsabout you share what the scenario/rpi/sos/top 25 wins/top 50/ top100 looks like for the other teams we are competing against..or at least acknowledge it is a paramount factor? Bottom line is what you posted is meaningless without comparative data...sorry just the way it is for proper evaluation. Incomplete News. You know what? It's just too early in the game.
...and BTW who says the mendoza line is 49? you? Lunardi? The KORE?
Anyway you know what I mean...your statement is an opinion and may be true but we can't analyze it in a vacuum. As Paul Harvey used to say...Where's the rest of the story?
As I have posted, even if the unbelievable happens and this team gets to 6 wins in a row, it still depends on whether the Committee wants to give 6 bids to the Big East or not. Historical rpi will not justify an invite for us (excluding BET wins)...we all knew that long before your Breaking News. How could we go up playing 3 teams with rpi woefully worse than our rpi?
Unfortunately whether it's your doomsday scenario or my doomsday scenario we just don't know what will happen till conference tourney results start to come in. Like I say the discussion is great and lots of fun as we all speculate...but it's all opinion for now. I respect your opinion and like me we tend to get ahead of things. Everything gets clearER in a week...and crystal clear in 2 weeks.
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Post by thewalk on Feb 23, 2017 21:14:26 GMT -5
Nothing scientific dex...68 teams....13s and worse are usually the sucky Conf champs....so figure 50 spots. The one consistent metric has been rpi (although a little less recently)...good wins vs bad losses vs injuries vs you name it can be spun however you'd like. SO to feel good, I'd recommend getting inside the top 50. Doesn't eliminate us if we're out but...
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Post by dmac80 on Feb 23, 2017 21:14:51 GMT -5
Lol at "the Kore"
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