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Post by thewalk on Feb 15, 2017 22:33:42 GMT -5
Wh were are you getting your BE stats...BE games...14ppg, 5rebs....19th and 14th...shooting 40%.
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Post by friarbrown on Feb 15, 2017 22:52:18 GMT -5
Really good all around game from everyone. We started slow. I thought Maliek and Jackson were the difference with their defense and transition plays. Jackson is growing on me. He does a lot of little things that go unnoticed in the box score. The bad losses are still driving me nuts as well. Imagine if we ad beaten St. Johns, DePaul and Seton Hall we would be in 2nd place in this conference at 9-5 with 4 to go. Cooley really has done a good job considering what we have lost and the expectations coming in. I think we dance easily next year if everyone of note comes back and we get production from the freshmen next year.
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Post by wtm97 on Feb 16, 2017 1:32:42 GMT -5
That we are "in the conversation" at this point in the season is a reflection of our steady handed coaching staff - they really have done a very good job with this team.
We have many flaws with decent, not top level, talent yet our grit and solid determination to make a plan and work the plan is showing - hence the last two wins against higher level teams. Sure we were home and had great crowd support but still these young men worked their butts off (13 steals, 8 blocks tonight), get out rebounded and they never lost their focus.
Dunk has been great - officials not so much with way too many calls that were really unnecessary. Fans let them hear it tonight.
Play on - who knows, this is fun.
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Post by mikemc on Feb 16, 2017 6:19:01 GMT -5
If refs are going to allow the ballhandler to make room with the forearm then they shouldn't be calling the lame ass reach in 40 feet from the basket. I thought the refs were god awful!!
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Post by TheInfoMan on Feb 16, 2017 9:28:53 GMT -5
Guess we'll disagree. I think we get in the dance with or without him next year. Let me clarify...he was great today. He wants to play in the 10-12 shot range and I'll change my tune. but those one handed runners and 24 footers that went down so easy tonight are fools gold. I personally get your point and i think most do here. The problem is replacing 17ppg and 7rpm. Barring a lightning-in-a-bottle frosh or the unlikely 5th year grad, that production can't be replaced. Can we agree on this: Cooley talks Rodney into coming back next year...but once he's here reduce his minutes or at least the number of shots he takes. Ie: no one complained last year as our 3rd option, its merely Rodney as our 1st option that the warts came out. Next year we need to move him down the option line (but keep his rebounding intact).
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Post by thewalk on Feb 16, 2017 10:02:31 GMT -5
We just replaced dunn and bentil.
don't much care about padded stats in December. His BE averages are 14 and 5 and include terrible shot selection. If that isn't replaceable by an entire roster returning then brizz the entire bunch. He's taken 2X the shots of Lindsey this year. Maybe the stripes have changed. I ain't buying based on one blowout W. Show me something at Creighton.
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Post by friar71 on Feb 16, 2017 10:31:36 GMT -5
Wh were are you getting your BE stats...BE games...14ppg, 5rebs....19th and 14th...shooting 40%. I look at season stats that BE posts. He is 16 and 5 in 27 overall games.
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Post by thewalk on Feb 16, 2017 10:35:17 GMT -5
meaningless...look at his conf stats.
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Post by dex on Feb 16, 2017 10:42:05 GMT -5
Walk I don't think we have to wait for the Creighton game or for next year to indict you for basketball malpractice analysis for praying that Rodney goes. You said we could call you a dumbass if his departure blows up in our faces...but why wait? You and I both know that the frosh next year won't score which means Cartwright and your old punching bag Lindsey must. You even have suggested that Dickens will redshirt which may happen. Nobody has criticized Sir Rodney more than me...but when he doesn't hang his head and get frustrated, he gives us some guile and toughness defensively on the backend and rebounding...even though he is always shorter and less bulky than his matchup.
If Rodney starts screwing up with bad shots etc while auditioning for a Euro gig, then Cooley must take action. If Cooley is the Coach we think he is, then he should be able to handle such conduct.
Now get back to reality and stop this nonsense immediately. Your analysis of the Selection Committee is always welcome this time of year.
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Post by dex on Feb 16, 2017 10:43:12 GMT -5
Kmac Article
PROVIDENCE — The confidence and good vibes are growing by the game. So is the all-important win total.
W i t h M a r c h o n t h e horizon, Providence continued its much-improved play by running away from Xavier, 75-63, before a rowdy crowd of 10,102 at the Dunkin’ Donuts Center on Wednesday night.
The Musketeers (18-8, 8-5 Big East), who aren’t in the Top 25 for the first time this season, were without leading scorer Trevon Bluiett (ankle injury). The Friars (16-11, 5-8) responded with a Jekyll-and-Hyde offensive effort but another of the defensive assaults that have become the team’s trademark.
The result was a 46-32 second-half blitz that the Musketeers had no answer for. Kyron Cartwright played one of his best games of the season with 17 points, 7 rebounds and 5 assists. Rodney Bullock added 16 points and 10 boards, while Jalen Lindsey tossed in three 3-pointers and 13 points. The Friars, who shot a sizzling 64.5 percent in the second half, turned 17 Xavier turnovers into 18 points.
One of coach Ed Cooley’s basketball commandments is to win home games and this one improved PC’s Big East home record to 4-3 with two games left.
“It was a great team win, another Big East battle,” said Cooley. “You have to try to win your home games if you’re going to be considered a postseason team.”
Without Bluiett, Xavier was led by RaShid Gaston’s 19 points and 14 rebounds. J.P. Macura added 17 points.
The win is PC’s second in row over a top-15 RPI team after beating Butler (12th) on Saturday. The Friars will take a week off before playing at Creighton (17 RPI) next Wednesday.
“I think we’re a totally different team than we were a month ago,” Cooley said. “I think guys are comfortable in their roles and accepting their roles. When you accept the role, you can flourish. I do think we’ve gotten better and hopefully we’ve turned the corner of improvement and that propels us to win games.”
The Friars continued a troublesome habit of playing some horrid offensive basketball for a long stretch in a very rough first half. PC made just two of its first 14 shots and missed its first eight 3-pointers on the way to a 20-10 deficit. Xavier still led 27-17 when the Friars made a run in the final three minutes of the half. Three-pointers by Lindsey and Bullock kept the Friars close and when Cartwright flipped in a loose rebound at the buzzer, the Musketeers led by just 31-29 at the half. The Musketeers, who outrebounded the Friars 44-29, deployed a major size advantage by hurting the Friars in the lane, where they scored 24 of their 31 first-half points. Gaston had 12 first-half points. PC shot 33.3 percent in the first half.
“We had great looks at the basket but we just weren’t making shots,” Cooley said. “We had the same shots in the second half and they went in. I still think we did a good job defending. Although we didn’t score we only gave up 31 points. This is the second game in a row where our defense in the first half has really helped us.”
Paced by the speed of Cartwright, the Friars were a different team in the second half. He scored six of the team’s first eight points and fed Lindsey for a 3-pointer that gave the Friars the lead for good, 42-39. Xavier cooperated nicely by turning the ball over in bunches, plays that freed up Cartwright to sprint off to the races.
“You get a guy like Kyron Cartwright out in transition, he’s a jet,” said Xavier coach Chris Mack.
Without Bluiett to help stem the tide, Xavier couldn’t hold the Friars back as they ripped off runs of 14-4 and 14-2 on the way to leading by as many as 18 points (74-56).
“We have to grow up,” Mack said. “I feel like I’m doing a lousy job getting our guys to deal with adversity. We have to survive other teams going on runs.”
Cooley praised the home cooking at The Dunk.
“This is one of the few games we’ve had where we’ve been able to build a lead and sustain a lead,” Cooley said. “Some of that is playing at home. The energy that this building has had, basically every home game, is a testament to the fans. I couldn’t be more proud of our fans or excited about playing two more home games.”
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Post by thewalk on Feb 16, 2017 11:02:46 GMT -5
If Cooley is half the developer of talent that's been posted in these parts and drew Edwards is the missing piece, how can we not replace 14 and 5 with an entire roster returning? Now the reality is our offense ain't great and the 14 really needs to be about 18.
As mentioned, I think we get into the dance next year regardless. This bubble is so hiss poor and gets worse annually. After watching Young, I no longer think dickens redshirts and he and Watson are going to need minutes next year to get us to where we'd like to be for 18-19.
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Post by mikemc on Feb 16, 2017 11:04:34 GMT -5
"Paced by the speed of Cartwright...."
Speed kills. We are awful 1/2 court offensive team. Need solid team defense and push the pace offensively is the ticket.
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Post by mikemc on Feb 16, 2017 11:07:09 GMT -5
Not completely sold on Edwards being the missing piece. Reminds me of a smaller Jackson.
Whom Dex loves by the way!!
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Post by dex on Feb 16, 2017 11:13:19 GMT -5
Well I should stop while I am ahead and let you keep digging your hole BUT
So now you opine that Young is not the answer...so the rail thin Dickens is Now the answer so there goes the redshirt premise you have been proffering here
AND you are going to depend on a Frosh like Watson to score? I think that's reaching based on the Frosh performance of late around here....it's also contrary to your long held beliefs about our type of frosh for the most part.
IDK if Rodney even wants to stay but I would be careful about assuring us an ncaa bid next year without him. It will take some appreciable stepping-up over the Summer by Diallo,Young and Jackson not to mention a new and very much improved Edwards. Maybe...but not a safe bet by any means.
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Post by thewalk on Feb 16, 2017 11:31:53 GMT -5
Don't twist it dex...I expect zero scoring from Dickens and Watson but they will need some minutes. Both would have gotten some minutes last night as young was getting killed.
Without bullock and additional minutes, Diallo, White, Lindsey, Jackson, Edwards could easily make up 14/5...SO that's no expected bump from Young or Holt (he'll struggle with fouls as long as he's a 5).
Speed kills. We are awful 1/2 court offensive team. Need solid team defense and push the pace offensively is the ticket...and this is why I think dickens sees the floor next year.
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