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Post by thewalk on Nov 26, 2014 14:33:26 GMT -5
i don't think it's a gimme at all....but every march it's who'd you beat and where'd you beat them....wins against BC/URI/Miami/Umass go a long way and i'd trade a 4-0 against that group with a loss to yale over a 3-1 with a win on friday.....i realize that a BC W is no guarantee with all of our bullets...
...now the downside is a yale L would kill the goodwill earned last weekend and consecutive losses keep us out of the top 25 until january....just losing to kentucky probably kicks us out for a week if we can win at BC....
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Post by HolyMoly on Nov 26, 2014 19:18:42 GMT -5
i don't think it's a gimme at all....but every march it's who'd you beat and where'd you beat them... .wins against BC/URI/Miami/Umass go a long way and i'd trade a 4-0 against that group with a loss to yale over a 3-1 with a win on friday.....i realize that a BC W is no guarantee with all of our bullets... ...now the downside is a yale L would kill the goodwill earned last weekend and consecutive losses keep us out of the top 25 until january....just losing to kentucky probably kicks us out for a week if we can win at BC.... you're nuts, odds are none of those teams will end up being marquee wins or even top 50 RPI wins so I would definitely rather go 3-1 against those 4 and have no bad losses come March..
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Post by friara on Nov 26, 2014 19:58:57 GMT -5
Miami will almost definitely be a top 50 RPI game. Uri and UMass should be top 75 or better. I agree with walk on this one.
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Post by dex on Nov 26, 2014 21:16:25 GMT -5
Looks like the Johnnies will beat young Pitino...up 8 with 30 seconds left
Go Hoyas
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Post by thewalk on Nov 26, 2014 21:32:36 GMT -5
Isn't uri borderline ranked right now?...plus you get the road bump of winning at bc and the screwy rpi calc that includes you opponents opponents in the formula where our acc Ws should help our metrics....I think you want as many quality conference Ws as possible...obviously the acc and A10 will end up higher than the ivy....
The committee seams more forgiving of terrible Ls ....especially if Dunn is out...
Miami currently top 5 rpi....means nothing I realize....
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Post by HolyMoly on Nov 26, 2014 22:07:45 GMT -5
Miami will almost definitely be a top 50 RPI game. Uri and UMass should be top 75 or better. I agree with walk on this one. top 75? big deal Committee isn't gonna sit there and say "oh wait PC beat Umass!! gotta put them in!!!" but they will say...."wow PC lost to Yale on their home floor???" home losses to teams with an RPI of 140 KILL your RPI......the SHU home loss last year took us right out of picture(remember committee said they didn't have us in if we lost to Creighton? think that was a 20 point swing for our RPI) while a loss to any of those 4 teams mentioned doesn't really hurt ya all that much
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Post by HolyMoly on Nov 26, 2014 22:14:43 GMT -5
Looks like the Johnnies will beat young Pitino...up 8 with 30 seconds left Go Hoyas Obekpa looks good....going retro with the booty chokers BTW have a small but very talented starting 5 but no bench if they didn't lose the JUCO kid they could have had a big year
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Post by HolyMoly on Nov 26, 2014 22:17:20 GMT -5
Isn't uri borderline ranked right now?...plus you get the road bump of winning at bc and the screwy rpi calc that includes you opponents opponents in the formula where our acc Ws should help our metrics....I think you want as many quality conference Ws as possible...obviously the acc and A10 will end up higher than the ivy.... The committee seams more forgiving of terrible Ls ....especially if Dunn is out... Miami currently top 5 rpi....means nothing I realize.... BC will get hammered AGAIN this year in the ACC and end up with an RPI around 100......count on it losing a game to them on the road will have less of a negative effect on our RPI than losing at home to Yale BTW this is not really opinion here
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Post by thewalk on Nov 26, 2014 22:26:22 GMT -5
I disagree....road/ neutral court Ws carry a ton of weight with the committee. ....just playing bc gives us an rpi boost...the a10 and acc games are the most important on the schedule...
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Post by HolyMoly on Nov 26, 2014 22:53:53 GMT -5
I disagree....road/ neutral court Ws carry a ton of weight with the committee. ....just playing bc gives us an rpi boost...the a10 and acc games are the most important on the schedule... You can disagree all you want but fact still remains that a home loss to Yale is worse for the resume. Thank You
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Post by friara on Nov 27, 2014 6:49:59 GMT -5
Worse than what? A loss in those other games? Sure...but walk is saying is that good wins outweigh bad losses at selection time. And I agree. And a 4-0 record in those games with a loss to Yale would look better than a 3-1 record and a win against Yale.
Not fact. Just opinion...and I would not sleep in Yale beating out Harvard for the Ivy bid.
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Post by pcballboy on Nov 27, 2014 7:56:47 GMT -5
how about 5-0 and just can it?
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Post by HolyMoly on Nov 27, 2014 13:32:39 GMT -5
Worse than what? A loss in those other games? Sure...but walk is saying is that good wins outweigh bad losses at selection time. And I agree. And a 4-0 record in those games with a loss to Yale would look better than a 3-1 record and a win against Yale. Not fact. Just opinion...and I would not sleep in Yale beating out Harvard for the Ivy bid. I understand what Walk is saying but truth is that notion only applies WHEN you're talking about a "marquee win"(i.e top 15-20 not top 80) Trust me 3-1 and a win over Yale is better than 4-0 and a loss tomorrow night
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Post by pembroke04 on Nov 28, 2014 13:04:59 GMT -5
I was looking for an update on Dunn/Linsdey...
Holy, I believe you that you might be right regarding the RPI, but when it comes down to selection time, I think the wins vs ND and FSU will help us out more than a hypothetical loss vs a bad team without two of our impact players. The stats/numbers won't show it, but I think it'll help the perception of the BE as a whole come selection time.
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Post by friar82 on Nov 28, 2014 15:32:25 GMT -5
Lindsey is warming up and stretching. No sign of Dunn yet
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